noah? no, uh…

mjkimpan  —  April 11, 2014 — 13 Comments

hatersofthelostark

i might lose some more subscribers with this one.

have you seen the ‘noah’ movie yet? in its opening weekend, the poetic tale of genesis chapters 6-9 brought in $43.7 million, topping the box office. in just two weeks, it’s earned nearly $200 million.

some people didn’t like it (including the vatican),  offered detailed deconstructions of the film, and have quite a bit to say about it. others, like my friend tony jones, blogged about what an incredible film it was.

and yet others critiqued it on principle – seemingly without either seeing the film, or even re-reading their bibles.

comedian/provocateur jon stewart explains ::

 

what about you? have you seen the film?

what do you think?

  • manlambda

    To be quite honest the whole Noah Ark thing makes your god look like a psycho. Let drown what would have to be million of babies because their parents were evil. I can at least appreciate my Christian friends who don’t believe this actually happened and is merely a story to teach a lesson but still the underlying message to be is disturbing to say the least.

    • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

      it wasn’t until only several years ago that i actually let myself struggle with this story – in part due to asking similar questions to what brian mclaren raises in his book, ‘A New Kind of Christianity :: Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith.’ his bit on noah is provocative to be sure.

      but i particularly like what rob bell has written recently about this story in his bible blogging series on tumblr :: it provides a fresh perspective and way to look at the scriptures which i think helps those who want to believe the bible is true, and also want to believe that God is good, grapple with this tale – because you’re right… the story makes YHVH look like a psycho (as do some of the other stories and demands this God puts on his people, [e.g., the divinely blessed genocide of entire people groups during the cana campaign]).

      check out what rob writes here :: http://robbellcom.tumblr.com/post/66199714202/what-is-the-bible-part-2-flood

      it’s a long series, but one which i think provides some truly great insights.

      • manlambda

        Still doesn’t change my mind. Again it seems a way to explain away the bad by saying but look it is a story of hope ignore all that killing. Why would someone want to follow a god who kills everyone?

        • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

          again, same questions i began to ask myself when i (re)engaged my faith after several years of rejecting it. have you heard of or read the book i recommended (previous comment) from mclaren? you may find it quite helpful in at least understanding how some (progressive) christians understand the God of the bible and the scripture themselves to be informative (and perhaps even inspired) without attempting to ‘explain away’ or ‘make excuses for’ the God of the hebrew scriptures (and even in the christian NT – for the example, in the atonement).
          if you’re interested, i’d highly recommend it. you can find it here :: http://www.mjkimpan.com/books/

          • manlambda

            I have many progressive Christian friends. I was one myself at one time. I just drifted away because I couldn’t justify the mental gymnastics.
            But I think this brings us back to one of the important points is that fundamentalist don’t feel this way. So to me this is why I am extremely skeptical that a bridge can be built. People like Julie Rodgers and Mark Yarhouse supposedly on the more moderate end of evangelism have shown that through the WV fiasco.

            • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

              i certainly understand your skepticism and suspicion of folks who identify as christian. i’m truly grateful that you’ve become a regular reader (and contributor in conversation, through the comments!) here on my blog. hope to have your voice adding to the dialogue regularly, not *in spite of*, but even *because of* some of those same suspicions.

              really do appreciate your perspective. thanks for reading and engaging. glad to have you here.

  • jontrouten

    These days it’s hard to get out and see movies. I’m going to see Captain America tomorrow or Sunday — hopefully. In other words, I doubt I’ll send it at the theater though I’m sure I’ll eventually catch it on TV.

    • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

      PLEASE tell me how captain america is. can’t decide if i want to spend the money to see it in theaters. i’ll base my decision solely on your review here. :)

      • http://penciledinexistence.wordpress.com/ Carly Jurica

        I liked it, and he’s one of my least favored Avengers. It’s him and Black Widow working together, and they did well. I think it’s worth the money.

      • jontrouten

        I agree. Go see it. It has everything from Falcon to Black Widow to HYDRA to Batroc the freaking Leaper. Very good movie. Plus stick around for the post-credits scene. Two future Avengers make an appearance.

        • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

          it’s settled, then. thanks!

  • http://penciledinexistence.wordpress.com/ Carly Jurica

    This is what happens when Christians don’t bother to understand Judaism as the foundation of their own faith. Or myth/oral tradition. Or ANE religion.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    • http://www.mjkimpan.com/ michael j. kimpan

      ‘this is why we can’t have nice things’ indeed. on the one hand, it’s eternally frustrating to engage in conversations with folks who make repeated and adamant claims that their 21st century evangelical understanding of their faith is ‘orthodox’ while ignoring the history of the development of that same faith and orthodoxy.

      on the other hand, i’m hopeful as i’ve watched numerous people (re)engage the story of their faith narrative differently as a result of such conversations and questions. many days, i’m tempted to join you in wearing that scarlet A, carly. ;)